DNA Project results
  Bandy descent in Genealogies Haplogroup  DYS 390 19 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389-1 392 389-2 458 459a 459b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464a 464b 464c 464d GATA H4 YCA II a YCA II b 456 607 576 570 CDY a CDY b 442 438 531
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result                                                                              
English origins                                                                            
2 Thomas (D0201-1703) R1b  13 24 15 11 11 13 13 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 26 15 20 31 15 15 15 17                        
3 R's Father (D0986-1505) R1b1c 13 24 15 11 11 13 13 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 20 30 15 15 15 17                        
12 Matthew (D3007-1863) Canadian branch R1b  13 24 15 11 11 13 13 12 12 13 13 29                                                  
                                                                             
US Origins group a                                                                            
1 Thomas (E15-0001) son of 1795 Richard E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32                                                  
4 George  (E15-0139) son of 1795 Richard E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32                                                  
7 John  (E16-0616) earlier ancestry unknown E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32                                                  
8 Richard (E16-0001) son of 1795 Richard E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32                                                  
10 Jesse (E15-0487) previously unconnected E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32                                                  
11 George  (E15-0139) son of 1795 Richard E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32                                                  
9 Thomas (E15-0001) son of 1795 Richard E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32 17 8 10 11 11 25 14 21 31 14 16 17 17                        
A1 John (E17-1638) previously unconnected E3a 13 21 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 13 11 32 17 8 10 11 11 25 14 21 31 14 16 16 17 22     15           16 11  
US Origins others                                                                            
5 only 2 generations known (US) R1b1 12 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 18 30 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 22 15 14 16 17 37 39 12 12
                                                                             

 

 

English origins
The results from Nos. 2 & 3 are in haplogroup R1b1c showing a western European origin which was to be expected.  The 12/12 and 23/25 match shows that these two family lines are related.  As a result of this we have looked again at Thomas (D0201-1703) and now believe that he was the son of William (D0155-1681) bap 04-May-1706 in Cranfield BDF ENG.  With this connection these two contributors are 9th cousins.  There are still plenty of separate English lines that need testing. Result 12 comes from a Canadian whose genealogy indicates an English origin.  Now that we know that there is a common ancestor with the others we have been able to identify the link (in Padbury) and confirm that this Canadian line are cousins of the main English line.

US Origins group a
All these results are a 12/12 match showing that these  US lines are related,  four of them descend from 3 different sons of 1795 Richard.  Test 7 descends from a line that we have not yet connected in the genealogy; John (E16-0616) (1794 who married Mary VanNuys) - but it is clear that this group also descend from the same common ancestor. Test 10 descends from Jesse (E15-0487) (c 1760 who married Charity Anne Boon).  We don't know the ancestors of this line, but once again it is clear from the DNA result that all these lines have a common ancestor who must predate the English group we originally thought they all descended from.  No A1 was tested by a different company than the others - but shows the same results. The 25/25 match hints that the common ancestor need not be that far back.  The haplogroup E3a is a surprise, it indicates a direct African origin, possibly Gabon, suggesting that these families are not related by male descent to the English families tested thus far .  Since we haven't really proven how (or if) the US and UK lines are related this origin could have arisen in England before the ancestral move to the US, or after.  There are plenty of US and English lines that haven't been tested yet so these results are still inconclusive.

US Origins others
Result 5 is from a gentleman whose ancestry we haven't been able to trace back more than a couple of generations.  He clearly is not related in the male line to any other group.  He may be a descendant of the middle European immigrants listed in the records, or a main line Bandy by female descent.  Once again we need more contributors to help us find out.

We haven't had any participants from the Bedfordshire families who were, we believe, the ancestors of the US branch so we need more research.  We also need more US participation to find out if there are any US Bandys who match the English branch.

We are awaiting the following results:

result 6 from England, this is believed to be a Bandy by female descent - so we anticipate no match here.

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