It seems clear that there are a
number of separate families who are now using BANDY (and spelling
variations) as their family name. Whilst many of these appear to
have originated in England we have clear evidence, especially in the US,
of immigrants from Switzerland, France, Hungary and other countries who
use that name. It is almost certain that these groups are not
related in any way. We are interested in all these families and
concerned to draw the links where we can, and understand the different
origins where we cannot. I hope we will be excused for sometimes
using the term "Family" inaccurately and loosely to mean "all who share
our rare and strange name, however they came by it". Our
genealogies make these separate family groups quite clear.
As yet we have no details of
the early origins of any BANDY families outside of England, Australia,
Canada and the US. Hopefully someone will be kind enough to send
us information for some other countries one day.
The BANDY family in England appears to have its
documented and traceable origin on the borders of Buckinghamshire and Bedfordshire, around MILTON KEYNES in 1550.
There are a number of earlier individual references before that which
are detailed below:
an English notable?
The Domesday Book of
a number of references to Bondi the Constable (royal officer - tax
collector?), clearly a man who served King Edward ("the
Confessor" 1042-66), in the returns for Bedfordshire,
Buckinghamshire and Berkshire and references to one or more people named
Bondi (no mention of Constable) in Northamptonshire. There is no proof that this man,
or these men, is an
ancestor - but the coincidence of names with possible name origins and
locations is too strong to ignore (see the Bandy
names section). Hopefully one day we will know more. The
Domesday Book was originally written in 11th Century Latin. The information below is an extract of the translation given in the Phillimore edition of
1978, the dots in the text (....) indicate that some details have been
One of the footnotes says: "BONDI. One of the few English [i.e. not
Norman] notables who retained land and office for some time after
1066. He was probably Sheriff of Bedfordshire before Ralph
In most of the entries Bondi is referred to as the person who
held the land before 1066 but two entries for Northamptonshire show him
as the landholder in 1086. These two places are two miles apart at
the most, and within 8 miles of Milton Keynes.
Note: a hide is an area of land usually reckoned to be
about 120 acres, but it can vary, a virgate is a quarter of a
The Domesday Book for
Bondi as land holder:
LAND OF WINEMAR.... In
CLEYLEY Hundred Dodin holds 1 hide ... from Winemar in ASHTON .... Bondi
holds 4 parts of ˝ hide from Winemar in the same Village, Land for 1
plough. 1 smallholder. value 4s. Haldane also held it freely before
LAND OF GUNFRED OF
CHOCQUES.... In CLEYLEY Hundred.... Bondi holds 3 virgates of
land and the fourth part of 1 virgate from Gunfred in EASTON NESTON.
Land for 2 ploughs. In lordship 1.... Bondi also held it freely
The Domesday Book for
Northamptonshire also has:
"LAND OF HENRY OF FERRERS ....
In NAVISFORD Hundred In TITCHMARSH Saswalo holds from Henry .... Bondi held it
In HAMFORDSHOE Hundred Ralph holds 4 hides from Henry in ECTON .... Bondi held it."
"LAND OF WILLIAM SON OF ANSCULF....
In UPTON Wapentake [This had certainly been part of the Danelaw]
Odbert holds 3 hides from William in BARNACK.... Bondi held it
COUNTESS JUDITH.... In HAMFORDSHOE Hundred the Countess holds 4 hides
herself in EARLS BARTON.... Bondi held it with full jurisdiction.
.... herself in GREAT DODDINGTON.... Bondi held it.
.... herself in WILBY.... Bondi held it.
.... herself in MEARS ASHBY.... Bondi held it.
In CORBY Hundred.... Lancelin holds .... land in NEWTON.... Lancelin
also holds .... land in OAKLEY.... Bondi held these lands freely
The Domesday Book for
a complex reference as follows:
In a special section headed "LAND OF THE KING'S REEVES, [BEADLES]
In FLITT Hundred in Streatley the reeve of the Hundred holds 2 parts of
1 virgate for the
King's work. They now lie in (the lands of) the King's manor of
Luton, but they did not lie there before 1066. Bondi the
Constable put them there and Ralph Tallboys found them put there...
The Domesday Book for Buckinghamshire has:
references to the Constables Bondi and Boding, who might be the same person.
"LAND OF THE COUNT OF MORTAIN .... In LAMUA Hundred .... in MARSH (Gibbon) ....
A man of Bondi the Constable's had ˝ hide there; he could sell."
"LAND OF WILLIAM SON OF ANSCULF .... In MURSLEY Hundred .... in HOGGESTON ....
Aelmer, Bondi [Bundi in the 1783 Latin edition] the Constable's man, held 7 hides of this manor as one manor; .... all of them could sell."
"LAND OF HENRY OF FERRERS .... In ASHENDON Hundred .... In SHIPTON (Lee) ....
Boding the Constable held this manor before 1066."
The Domesday Book for Berkshire has:
"LAND OF HENRY OF FERRERS .... In COMPTON Hundred .... Henry also holds 'ASHDEN' ....
Bondi [Bundi in the 1783 Latin edition] held it from King Edward
.... In BEYNHURST Hundred BISHAM. Bondi held it from King Edward. Then and now for 8 hides.
.... In READING Hundred in BURGHFIELD 1˝ hides. Two freeholders held it before 1066 .... One served the Queen and the other [served] Bondi [Bundino in the 1783 Latin edition] "
Thomas le Bandy - Lord of a Manor?
Thomas le Bandy sued the Abbot of
Coggeshale (now Coggeshall?) in Essex, for the Manor of Tillingham
(Essex). Thomas le Bandy was the son of John, who was the son of William
and Joan and had a brother called William. (more
Pleadings AD 1200-1500 Obtained by Frank Bandy
Thomas a vicar in Worcestershire
Thomas BANDY was Vicar of MATHON in the county of Worcestershire from 1373 to 1378.
Fawcett's index of the clergy referring to Miller "Parishes of
Worcestershire" (SOG Library) Obtained by Derek Bandy
John a friar in Cambridge
John BANDY Friar O.C. (Carmelite) Cambridge
Convent 1385-6. Ordained deacon 25-Apr-1385, Priest 7-Apr-1386.
From the Biographical Register of the
University of Oxford
Register Arundel fos 132,133v. Obtained by Frank Bandy
Robert a priest in Oxford
Robert BANDY ordained sub-deacon
to St John's Hospital, Oxford 28-Mar-1411, deacon 11-Apr-1411 and priest
From the Biographical Register
of the University of Oxford
Register Burghill Coventry & Lichfield fos 231,231v232.
Obtained by Frank Bandy
1559 the will of a RICHARD
BANDY of Potsgrove Beds
In this will of February 1559 RICHARD BANDY mentions his wife ALICE, who
is pregnant, a daughter ISOBELL and three brothers EDWARD Jnr, EDWARD
Snr and JOHN. There are also other children unnamed and probably underage
as well as unnamed sisters. Perhaps one of the EDWARDS is the
author of the 1582 will below, Potsgrove is no more than 10 miles from
here to read a translation
here to see this will
County Record Office- Aylesbury. Obtained by Derek Bandy
the will of JOAN BANDY of Hardmead Bucks
Hardmead is no more than 10 miles
from Milton Keynes.
County Record Office- Aylesbury. Not
1582 the will of EDWARD BANDY
(b. bef 1545) of Milton Keynes
In this Will dated 18th June, 1582 EDWARD
mentions his wife MARY BANDY, his sons RICHARD, THOMAS and JOHN, and his
daughters JOAN and MARGARET. Thomas was at the time under 21 years old
and John under 15. Joan and Margaret were both under 21. The will was
witnessed by Laurence Smyth and Hugh Makant. Mr Bayly was appointed to
"oversee" it and the executors were his wife Mary and son
here to read a translation
County Record Office- Aylesbury. Obtained by Derek Bandy,
translated by Brooke Westcott
The parish register of Milton Keynes has the following relevant entries:
||THOMAS BĂDIE fil Edw
||JOHN BANDIE fil Edw
||MARGARTA Fil Edwardi
||JOHANES Fil Edwardi
Bădie Bap [this is Joan]
||EDWARD BANDY Bur
||RICHARD BANDEY &
AGNES HAYES Mar
[this would place Richard's birth before 1566, and Edward's
This is the first family we can identify
in full at the moment, and it seems that all BANDYs that can track back
this far, end up here.
There are a host of records of the Bandys of various spellings from the
late 16th century onward in the counties of Bucks and Beds, and fewer in the
surrounding counties. Most of the records indicate that the
English Bandys were very ordinary, mostly illiterate, agricultural
workers living in relative poverty, although a few families seem to have
managed to enter the trades and commerce by the middle to end of the
19th century. A review of the records in the mid nineteenth century indicates a very strong presence in Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire at that time, and little elsewhere in England.
The earliest spelling is Be ~de but there are a number of different spellings of the name including Bundy and Boundy further
east in Bedfordshire. Our current conclusion, therefore, is that all Bandys
of English origin,
including those outside England, should be able to trace themselves back to this group in Milton Keynes. Clearly
there are other groups who do not descend from English families. The
earliest continuous genealogy on this website (at the moment) of any
English branch starts in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire with the father
of Richard Bandy, it includes the Bandys in
Wing, Buckinghamshire and continues up to the present day. It is
believed that the oldest American branch descends from this line as does
the the younger Australian
there is a little evidence for the Bundy and Boundy spellings being used for
Bandys in Bucks and Beds we have not yet demonstrated the link to the
main Bundy lines which appear to be much further west. We still
suspect that there is a link - at least to Bundys in Bedfordshire and we
will continue to support research on this possibility.
There are Bandy families all over the world now and
you will find many genealogies and other
references in the appropriate
sections of this website.
c 1750 RICHARD
BANDY in the US
The oldest non-English branch appears to
be in North America where one or more ancestors founded lines in the 18
century. At least one of those lines was
founded by a Richard Bandy who may have been transported to (what was then British
-) North America for a minor crime. The most likely candidate for this
Richard was baptised 8 Jul 1722 in Cardington, Bedford, England.
Most Bandys in the USA trace themselves back to this man - but the early
years in the US remain clouded by lack of documentation. The
fullest genealogy of the American branch is provided by the Eubanks
but there are others in the genealogies
1850 RICHARD BANDY in Canada
A Richard Bandy born in 1828 in
Padbury Bucks England is thought to have been the founding father of the oldest
Canadian line. A genealogy
of this branch was provided by Joan Kondratowicz.
two lines founded in Australia
Two separate lines were founded
in Australia. The elder on 29 December 1849 by 34 year old William
Bandy from Aspley Guise in Bedfordshire with Ann his wife and children. The other line was founded by Thomas Bandy on 25
Oct 1850. Born in 1808 in the parish of Turweston,
Buckinghamshire, Thomas Bandy re-enlisted in the British army to sail
with his wife Sarah and 5 children from Deptford on 10th July 1850
as a "pensioner guard" on the prison ship "HMS Hashemy" .
His reward was a grant of 10 acres of land in the new colony. The
pair had two more children after their arrival. Genealogies of
both these branches were provided by Peter Bandy and have been
consolidated into the "Founding Fathers".
There have been a number of other younger Bandy lines established by
other emigrants from England as well as from the new world. We
even know of one in Central America. If you belong to, or know
about, one of these lines please get in touch so that we can draw the
not descended from England
We can see in the US census returns that some families named Bandy did
not descend from England at all. In most cases they were from European
families with very similar names. Perhaps these families have a
similar name origin (rather than descent) to the English Bandys.
Perhaps we might be related too far
back (dark ages migrations?) for records to show. It is equally
likely that we are not related at all. Perhaps one of our number
has the resources available to undertake the DNA analysis of members of
the differing branches to find out?
Hopefully, this website will stimulate you to
share the information you have assembled so that we can refine and widen the story of the family for everybody's benefit.